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Surveyfail

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This will be a cryptic post unless you've been following that whole surveyfail deal.

I've been two days at orientation activities for new students in our program, including today's epic campus tour of York (which, as [info]piratefanatic and [info]extrathursday can attest) is more performance than information-delivery. It's a massive campus. We were out for a solid hour, and there were only four buildings on the tour. I'm tired.

So, in response to the surveyfail thing: I live at the intersection of fandom and academia. Posts like this make me proud to be a fan, to be a grad student, and perhaps (perhaps) to become a fully-fledged academifan.

More than anything, I am a lurker: but by the gods, I can squee with the best of them.

I've picked that particular thread to link to because I'm in love with the comment-macro.

EDIT: if you'd like to know more, please check out linkspam posts.

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[info]extrathursday wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 02:13 am (UTC)
It was very much "dance monkey DANCE!" for a bunch of 3rd graders who didn't want to be there and didn't want to walk or listen or even knew what a university was. So what did we do to catch their attentions? Lollipops. Give them more sugar. Did that work on the wide-eyed newbies?
[info]naturelf wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 02:58 am (UTC)
One of the newbies was an ex-CASTie from Laurier, but I didn't manage to track her down during lunch.

And lollipops? Bah. ...we bought them beer.
[info]extrathursday wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 03:09 am (UTC)
Hee - awww, newbies to York, not the System. They should only get maps with the locations of alcohol serving establishments marked in a cheery official York red. Who was the CASTie? I wonder if we ever met ...
[info]naturelf wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 03:39 am (UTC)
The tour had a lot of, "This building is ___, where you find ___ office. Allow me to list the food establishments located within the building."
[info]extrathursday wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 04:28 am (UTC)
Brilliant. I really could care less where the book are - show me where the caffeine and muffins live!
[info]naturelf wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 03:29 pm (UTC)
...sorry, I think I woke up on a strange side of the bed
Exactly. There aren't any single-use buildings, but there aren't many comprehensive building listings that include the late-night food options. It's amazing how much I know about York because I've tried to give a damn about my surroundings, you know? Versus the people who go to campus, go to class, and then go home again, without any curiosity.

First against the wall when the revolution comes: people with no imagination or curiosity. It shall be a glorious revolution.
[info]extrathursday wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 07:23 pm (UTC)
Re: ...sorry, I think I woke up on a strange side of the bed
It's amazing how much you remember/retain - I spent the day watching my mom get her hair cut and chatting with a lady whose daughter couldn't decide between York or WLU for business. Step right into my office ...

Glorious and well catered, methinks.
[info]naturelf wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 07:52 pm (UTC)
It is hard to turn off the "I have information! You want information! Let me tell you information!" reflex.

Glorius and well-catered, naturally. What do you take us for?
[info]extrathursday wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 08:09 pm (UTC)
Academics who think coffee and teas is a 'snack' for a two hour meeting, clearly.
[info]naturelf wrote:
Sep. 5th, 2009 12:23 pm (UTC)
...When a fruit plate, cookies and/or sandwiches are clearly more appropriate.
[info]piratefanatic wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 03:20 am (UTC)
We periodically gave tours to itty bitty munchkins. Mostly middle schoolers, but the occasional 5th grade group too.

One of the especially moronic munchkins chased a squirrel. The squirrel was having none of his nonsense, so turned 'round and bit the stinker.
[info]naturelf wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 03:38 am (UTC)
THAT'S GREAT. I generally have no love for squirrels, but I hope that one lived a long and happy life, and didn't end his/her days squished under the wheel of a truck.
[info]extrathursday wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 04:31 am (UTC)
I now have the strangest urge to see if that joint cybernetics project they're ever so proud of can whip me up a RoboSquirel 2.0 to let loose in that one green space that exists on campus.
[info]naturelf wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 03:31 pm (UTC)
I'm in, as long as they put a camera in the squirrel's head to get the great reactions.
[info]extrathursday wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 07:24 pm (UTC)
Just for Laughs Gags would buy the footage in a heartbeat.
[info]naturelf wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 07:53 pm (UTC)
It's funny they call it Just for Laughs Gags because that's what I do when I hear the name. Gag.
[info]piratefanatic wrote:
Sep. 14th, 2009 04:16 am (UTC)
I VOTE YES.
[info]naturelf wrote:
Sep. 14th, 2009 10:59 pm (UTC)
I'll add it to the list of things I'm making my brother build for me. Also on that list: a banjo and a wacky chandelier.
[info]piratefanatic wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 03:15 am (UTC)
Congrats on surviving the campus tours! They are a scary thing, indeed. Especially given the fact that your campus has about ten times more people than THE TOWN I'M LIVING IN.**

I was just gearing up you ask if you had any thoughts about surveyfail. I keep trying to formulate what's in my head, but lots of other people have said it already, and better than I could right now. So I'll stick with the lurking and quietly cheering fandom on from behind my computer.

**for another 2 days at least.
[info]piratefanatic wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 03:17 am (UTC)
HAH. Also, your campus is about twice the size of teh city I'll be moving to on Saturday.

GIANT SCHOOL IS GIANT.
[info]naturelf wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 03:26 am (UTC)
All I'm saying is: bigger than Monaco. Of course, I grew up in a town of 1800, so... *shrug*

The surveyfail thing I heard about through my supervisor, and we talked about monetizing subcultures. What I'm finding interesting in this is that, unlike punk or similar youth-identified subcultures (grunge, skateboarding, whatever), fandom has a disproportionate number of folks who are used to being Others. The post I linked to repeats the women/queers/kinky folk triad, but their method of engaging with the problem is directly informed by sophisticated understandings of identity politics. And not just struggling with the, like, angst of suburbia.

It's past my bedtime: there's more to say and a more direct way to say it. Mostly I think it's cool that fandom and academifans are so well-equipped to identify and fight off those who want to perpetuate a discourse of exploitation.
[info]jalendavi_lady wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 06:24 pm (UTC)
Used to being Others?

They went after a group of people who practically or actually revel in being Us Others instead of We Individual Others All Alone And Apart, didn't take the hint that they were dealing with an empowered mass of Us Others on their own personal safe-space turf, and were apparently taken aback when told to 'go away or we shall taunt you a second time'.

And then got to find out what 'taunt you a second time' means to fandom.
[info]naturelf wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 07:50 pm (UTC)
Yup! Used to being Others, and with all the tools and munitions that comes with organization. Fandom is our Others Union.
[info]elfwreck wrote:
Sep. 4th, 2009 01:44 pm (UTC)
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